Comments on: Baseball Needs Instant Replay: Confirmed http://somewhatmanlynerd.com/blog/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/ infrequent blogging from some dude Thu, 25 Sep 2025 12:35:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: CajoleJuice http://somewhatmanlynerd.com/blog/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-546 CajoleJuice Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:35:04 +0000 http://thesomewhatmanlynerd.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/#comment-546 Seamus: I agree completely about the blown home run call. By the way it bounced, it was clear that it did not hit a hard surface, not padding. I'm not quite sure where you're going with the whole "moved his foot, hence he scored" argument, though. Just because he moved the foot doesn't necessarily mean he touched the plate. Rich: Well, Will Leitch agrees with you. And that hesitation doesn't sit right with me either. Regarding instant replay, I've heard a few people suggest just using it for home run calls. That wouldn't be such a bad start. The funniest thing about the whole play to me is that Holliday slid head-first. If he just ran Barrett over or slid feet-first, there wouldn't have been any problems. Instead, he busted up his hand and face like a moron, without ever touching the plate. Seamus:

I agree completely about the blown home run call. By the way it bounced, it was clear that it did not hit a hard surface, not padding. I’m not quite sure where you’re going with the whole “moved his foot, hence he scored” argument, though. Just because he moved the foot doesn’t necessarily mean he touched the plate.

Rich:

Well, Will Leitch agrees with you. And that hesitation doesn’t sit right with me either. Regarding instant replay, I’ve heard a few people suggest just using it for home run calls. That wouldn’t be such a bad start.

The funniest thing about the whole play to me is that Holliday slid head-first. If he just ran Barrett over or slid feet-first, there wouldn’t have been any problems. Instead, he busted up his hand and face like a moron, without ever touching the plate.

]]> By: Seamus http://somewhatmanlynerd.com/blog/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-551 Seamus Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:45:31 +0000 http://thesomewhatmanlynerd.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/#comment-551 What needed the replay was simple physics. The hone run that was called back was actually a home run for two reasons. First, at Coors Field a ball that hits the yellow padding is not a homerun - a ball must travel over the padding to be a homerun. When the ball completed its trajectory and hit it whatever it hit, it immediately bounced back onto the field. A ball traveling at that speed would not behave that way if it hit foam padding. Period. The ball traveled past the padding and hit the railing the padding is tied to. But that's not really the big debate. Everyone wants to know if Holiday actually touched the plate. And did he? As he slid into home the catcher was guarding the plate with his left foot. As Holiday was sliding two things were happening. One, the catcher was trying to gain control of the ball and two, the catchers foot which was directly in front of the plate was forced back by Holiday's hand. The catchers foot (which was directly in front of the plate) could not have moved that way unless a force acted upon it (Holiday's hand). Basically the ump just needed to know if the catcher had ever maintained possession of the ball. When the ump saw the ball rolling on the ground he knew Holiday was safe because Holiday had moved the catchers foot as he slid. Holiday even has a bloody hand to prove he hit the catchers foot because the cleats dug into his hand. Simple physics. Rockies did score the run. Both times. Also it was an amazing game. What needed the replay was simple physics.

The hone run that was called back was actually a home run for two reasons. First, at Coors Field a ball that hits the yellow padding is not a homerun – a ball must travel over the padding to be a homerun. When the ball completed its trajectory and hit it whatever it hit, it immediately bounced back onto the field. A ball traveling at that speed would not behave that way if it hit foam padding. Period. The ball traveled past the padding and hit the railing the padding is tied to.

But that’s not really the big debate. Everyone wants to know if Holiday actually touched the plate. And did he?

As he slid into home the catcher was guarding the plate with his left foot. As Holiday was sliding two things were happening. One, the catcher was trying to gain control of the ball and two, the catchers foot which was directly in front of the plate was forced back by Holiday’s hand. The catchers foot (which was directly in front of the plate) could not have moved that way unless a force acted upon it (Holiday’s hand).

Basically the ump just needed to know if the catcher had ever maintained possession of the ball. When the ump saw the ball rolling on the ground he knew Holiday was safe because Holiday had moved the catchers foot as he slid. Holiday even has a bloody hand to prove he hit the catchers foot because the cleats dug into his hand.

Simple physics. Rockies did score the run. Both times.

Also it was an amazing game.

]]> By: Rich Campbell http://somewhatmanlynerd.com/blog/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-550 Rich Campbell Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:00:09 +0000 http://thesomewhatmanlynerd.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/#comment-550 I know this is going to sound weird when I'm getting vilified all over the 'net for my outrage on this call and my believe that the ump made a deliberate decision to make the wrong call... ...but I still don't believe baseball needs instant replay. I know this is going to sound weird when I’m getting vilified all over the ‘net for my outrage on this call and my believe that the ump made a deliberate decision to make the wrong call…

…but I still don’t believe baseball needs instant replay.

]]> By: Tim Kurek http://somewhatmanlynerd.com/blog/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-549 Tim Kurek Wed, 03 Oct 2007 05:09:33 +0000 http://thesomewhatmanlynerd.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/#comment-549 I agree! Good blog, well thought out! And American football is the best sport period. http://UriahMinistries.wordpres.com tim I agree! Good blog, well thought out! And American football is the best sport period.

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]]> By: Vainglorious http://somewhatmanlynerd.com/blog/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-548 Vainglorious Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:38:54 +0000 http://thesomewhatmanlynerd.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/#comment-548 What baseball needs is to stop existing. Soccer is a much better sport anyway. :o) What baseball needs is to stop existing.

Soccer is a much better sport anyway. :o )

]]> By: tsos20 http://somewhatmanlynerd.com/blog/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-547 tsos20 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:47:03 +0000 http://thesomewhatmanlynerd.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/#comment-547 There are hundred's of big calls that replay could have reversed. Home Runs that were fair or foul or even interfered with by a kid. There are traps versus catches, totally missed tags, fair and foul balls, the list goes on and on. Some people have told me they like the " human element" in baseball. What they are saying is mistakes by umpires make the game better, somehow more interesting; I think errors by umps ruin games. The team that wins fair and square should be the victor. I didn't see a lot of people saying it made the game better when we lost the olympic finals in basketball to Russia on officiating. It hurts when you loose a game you should have won. The same thing applies to baseball; make sure the rightful winner wins. The Sultan on Sports tsos20.wordpress.com There are hundred’s of big calls that replay could have reversed. Home Runs that were fair or foul or even interfered with by a kid. There are traps versus catches, totally missed tags, fair and foul balls, the list goes on and on. Some people have told me they like the ” human element” in baseball. What they are saying is mistakes by umpires make the game better, somehow more interesting; I think errors by umps ruin games. The team that wins fair and square should be the victor. I didn’t see a lot of people saying it made the game better when we lost the olympic finals in basketball to Russia on officiating. It hurts when you loose a game you should have won. The same thing applies to baseball; make sure the rightful winner wins.
The Sultan on Sports

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]]> By: Shard J http://somewhatmanlynerd.com/blog/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-554 Shard J Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:47:46 +0000 http://thesomewhatmanlynerd.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/#comment-554 As long as the instant replay is limited like timeouts. You don't every questionable ball or strike reviewed. As long as the instant replay is limited like timeouts. You don’t every questionable ball or strike reviewed.

]]> By: CajoleJuice http://somewhatmanlynerd.com/blog/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-553 CajoleJuice Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:47:18 +0000 http://thesomewhatmanlynerd.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/#comment-553 I can't believe something I wrote in 10 minutes while half-asleep - still reeling from the Mets collapse - was linked on Deadspin. I'll have to make more controversial, yet insubstantial, posts (with Will Leitch mentioned) in the future. He obviously scours the internet for mentions of his name. Thanks, Leitch! I can’t believe something I wrote in 10 minutes while half-asleep – still reeling from the Mets collapse – was linked on Deadspin. I’ll have to make more controversial, yet insubstantial, posts (with Will Leitch mentioned) in the future. He obviously scours the internet for mentions of his name. Thanks, Leitch!

]]> By: Via Chicago http://somewhatmanlynerd.com/blog/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/comment-page-1/#comment-552 Via Chicago Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:53:36 +0000 http://thesomewhatmanlynerd.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/baseball-needs-instant-replay-confirmed/#comment-552 People still watch tennis ? People still watch tennis ?

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